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Joining us now is the host of the NeedToKnow.Today podcast\h
@BryceZabel (@HollywoodUFOs) and sir thank you so much for coming\h\h

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on. We appreciate it. It's amazing to hear\h
a U.S senator (Josh Hawley) say that the allegation that just\h\h

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came from this whistleblower sounds similar to\h
what he was told in in a confidential briefing\h\h

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from the White House. || BZ: It is amazing. We are living\h
in extraordinary times because what's happened is\h\h

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the thing that has existed in the shadows for\h
at least 70 years if you go back to 1947 and\h\h

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potentially Roswell has now gone in the open\h
and now people are talking about it. And I\h\h

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should point out that many of the things you\h
said in your introduction that is what the\h\h

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Whistleblower has said in his public interviews\h
but senators and Congressmen have been hearing\h\h

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these kinds of stories for the past year and\h
perhaps even longer but they've been hearing\h\h

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them in closed-door classified sessions and\h
perhaps we're about to change that game what\h\h

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do you know about this whistleblower does he\h
did he have direct contact with with this I\h\h

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mean I know he had a very high you know ax he\h
had a lot of access right I mean he was in the\h\h

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geospatial whatever it is I mean he was it was\h
a decorated uh I think Air Force veteran what\h\h

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do we know about him oh David grush is The\h
Whistleblower you're talking about the man\h\h

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has impeccable credentials and many many people\h
with equal impeccable credentials have said he is\h\h

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who he is and he's not making up stories about\h
his access he had the highest level access and\h\h

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he was able to go ask people in a special access\h
programs what they're all about and many of them\h\h

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spoke to him so he's also by the way and I find\h
this incredible he worked on presidential daily\h\h

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briefings he was trusted Enough by our nation to\h
hand carry those briefings to the Oval Office this\h\h

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man is not a nobody I actually sat in Rob on two\h
of the interviews that he did so I've met the man\h\h

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taken his measure personally I I mean he he needs\h
to be proved out to everyone's satisfaction but I\h\h

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found a man who was extraordinarily patriotic\h
and at the same time someone who felt that the\h\h

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things he had observed and been taught to needed\h
to change and that he felt that it was time and\h\h

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and I think it's a Act of great courage to\h
come forward the way he's done what do you\h\h

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say to people you know I I have a healthy dose of\h
skepticism for everything I I don't think we're\h\h

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alone in this universe I look out at trillions of\h
stars and I say it's idiotic to think that we're\h\h

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the only alive thing in that universe but at the\h
same time I also have a very healthy skepticism\h\h

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of government and I think there's a lot of people\h
out there that believe that there could be this\h\h

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could be all just a little dance to give people\h
the distraction so that they're not maybe paying\h\h

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attention to something else let's start talking\h
about aliens because our discourse has gotten so\h\h

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bad what would you say to somebody that believes\h
something like that well I I would say skepticism\h\h

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is always warranted I'm I'm a reporter myself I\h
I am skeptical but let's remember this whole uh\h\h

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UFO situation that we're talking about now didn't\h
start in 2004 with that very uh widely publicized\h\h

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Nimitz uh incident it started for the United\h
States back in 1947 there have been investigations\h\h

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reports there have been other uh classified\h
people who've come forward and I should point\h\h

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out just ask your fellow Americans there's been\h
hundreds of thousands of them including uh cops\h\h

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and and uh military people uh every every manner\h
of a person out there that has seen things that\h\h

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cannot be explained and is looking for answers\h
so I I guess what I would say to people is let's\h\h

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take Dave grush for what he says he is he is\h
an Insider who is prepared to tell a story all\h\h

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right great let's vet who he is and then let's\h
get investigating on the charges that he's made\h\h

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and from what I understand Rob that's exactly\h
what's going on in Congress I I mean you just\h\h

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had a guest on representative James Comer and\h
he is uh behind one of the investigations that's\h\h

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going to go forward with uh Timber Chet probably\h
one of the co-chairs of a committee that's going\h\h

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to look into this and potentially have public\h
hearings so it's sort of like the starter's gun\h\h

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on this has been fired with Dave grush and now\h
it's time for us to see what's going to happen\h\h

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and I would just remind your viewers I mean\h
think back to the Senate Watergate hearings\h\h

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back in 73 or even the church Committee hearing\h
since 75 those were widely publicized and they\h\h

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helped take issues that people weren't focused on\h
and make them public that's for that's that's so\h\h